I think that the music for this song is perfect for it's mood. Once I tried to get my friend to make me a mix of this song and Nitzer Ebb's "Join in the Chant." He wouldn't do it. JimDavies
Welcome to the Loving Arms of the Apocalypse, my friend.... Nothing left but us cockroaches! You'll find this theme runs rampant pretty much all throughout Big Science, most notably present in the title song, and "From the Air". All surrounded, of course, by wiseass snide remarks about the nature of human beings and loads of innuendo about modern culture. :) John Nolt eclogue@qnet.com
I feel that a number of the songs are concerned with consciousness and memory. 'From the Air' seems to me to describe consciousness's passage through life inside the body. The plane represents the body (cf. juxtaposition of 'this is the hand' and 'here come the planes' in 'O Superman') and the consciousness of the individual is the passenger. We are on autopilot ('there is no pilot') - the captain's instructions are reflexes or unconscious actions ('put you hands on your head', etc) However consciousness is collective, or mirrored in others ('you are not alone', 'I've seen this all before', 'I'm a caveman') This mirroring also turns up in '2 Jims' and the women 'all called Betty'. We define ourselves and are defined by others ('you are not alone') Consciousness can be born from within the coccooning womb of the body/plane ('jump out of the plane') geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
I think this describes an evolution of consciousness as Geraint explains, but I also see it more specifically about free will. First the pilot is the father figure in whose hands the life of the protagonist rests, but he seems either to have an inappropriately sick sense of humor, or else is losing his marbles (the "Simon Says" bit). In verse two, this paternal voice becomes megalomaniac: "Cause I'm a caveman" - I've been here since before Man; "Cause I've got eyes in the back of my head" - I see everything, everywhere; "It's the heat" - a banality but also a patronizing non-answer to the question, as if to say "You'll never understand Me".... this is a pilot with a God complex! But verse 3 (which is *not* spoken by the Captain) turns it all around: stop looking here for the answer, jump out of this plane because it's not in control & doesn't control you; there is no pilot/god/parent; we are all our own pilots/gods/parents. The crashing plane is like crashing faith (or dogma, or superstition) - when you realize the "pilot" you've been listening to is going to crash you into the ground, you jump out and find out that contrary to what you feared, "you are not alone" in taking responsibility for your own life. Also, it's important that The Captain does *not* speak this last verse (it's always specified in 1 & 2). The Captain wanted you to go down with the plane. I think the voice of this verse is your own voice, and you're finally listening to it. -- "D" of mukamuk@pacbell.net
You state that "This is a joke on the Simon Says game." That's
certainly valid. But what's more shocking is that the Captain would
play such a game (or just joke around even if s/he's not referring to
Simon Says) while the plane is going down. (papierman@yahoo.com)
This is a joke on the Simon Says game. JimDavies
Use of a stereotypical phrase in a context which charges it with associated meaning-- Laurie Anderson's favorite tactic. In this case, we could say that this song, the cataclysmic fall in the arms of a technology-driven society that cannot take care of us but won't leave us alone, is "the record of the time", this time, our time. ux954@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Laura Miller)
This sequence makes me think of the "black box" flight recorder -- In the midst of whatever is going wrong, the clock is still ticking and the recorder is still recording. wharris@mail.airmail.net (Billy Harris)
Her line" this is the time. this is the record of the time"
may be suggesting a comment about the nature of poetry in the
tradition
of English Poetry.
Marvell - To his coy mistress - discusses the possibilities of future
time.
"Had we but World enough, and Time
This coyness Lady were no crime."
T S Eliot - "Love song of J Alfred Prufrock" responded to Marvell with
his line
"And indeed there will be time". Quite ironic from a procrastinating
protagonist.
Both poets indicate a romantic future in a despairing present. Both
narrators of the poems discuss the essence of humans to think of
themselves in some other way; a crucial capacity for a nation - such
as
the USA - that has a tradition of manifest destiny. Thus the idea of
using language to represent ourselves as others in all social aspects
is fundamental for we beings as humans.
Laurie now takes that idea of the romantic other/dimension and
suggests
that our immediate response to the above poems cannot be similar - one
written in the seventeenth century - the latter written last century.
Now as post modernists we cannot relate to previous words or ideas and
our romance has changed from the future modal of "will" to the present
intransitive "is".
In an ahistoric moment, Laurie has summed up our future as present
time
that crashes and reduces our romantic human endeavours to the mere
puppetry of social role models. Hence the postmodern paradox of
shunning the past but acknowledging the necessity to understand and
use
the history language to continue as human beings.
sincerely
tom lane
It's the heat and eyes in the back.. Are both idioms that we use in english. Laurie is forcing us to look at them critically by putting them in this context. JimDavies
Seems as though something like this actually happened to Laurie, which explains the common airplane theme in her work. There is a detailed story of it in US live, most of which I believe to be true. JimDavies
Does anyone agree that Big Science is the most **stunning, atmospheric** song ever penned by Laurie A? Whenever I listen to it, and it is often :) The vison she conjures up of that lonely *sunset time* road with vast lots of empty spaces and big billboards and useless buildings... just gets me every time. "Such a vision of the street as the street never had..." Anyone that has ever visited a newly developed suburb or "new Town" knows that hollow feeling only too well. Of course being an architect I guess it has to ;) It is such a sad melancholy expression. Somehow it also reminds me of those old westerns where the guy gets off the stage coach and steps into the dust and the locals kind of "scurry away" and he's left alone with the swirling bits of trash and dust devils... And lastly, but not least.... TS Eliot's Preludes : "... The worlds revolve like ancient women, Gathering fuel in vacant lots." Cheers, Anton antonij@asiaonline.net
'Big Science' has a strong resonance for me. Once again consciousness is coccooned inside the womb ('it's cold outside'), but in being born it moves from familiarity to unfamiliarity. I think the instructions according what is going to happen are partly a reflection of people telling you what life is going to be like *for you* i.e. your life defined by others. It is also partly an ironic comment on the way people's mental maps take on a reality of their own. People arrange to meet outside a shop that is no longer there, but they still use the name as it was. People remember things the way they used to be, and they live more and more in the past, with the present becoming more and more like the future. Eventually, you become a stranger in the place you grew up: the place you grew up in is no longer there ('everywhere he goes, he stays a stranger'). This change in perception is predetermined by the impermanence of a building-site culture. Like the plane, the modern urban environment is a strangely alienating vessel for the consciousness. Impermanence is permanent. The fixed points of our life are always rushing past us,, leaving only an illusion of reality, like the frames of a cinema film creating an illusion of a fixed and coherent scene *because* their speed deceives the eye ('let's roll the film') geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
This song is a comment on our modern civilization. Up until now she talks about the progress made and the development. Not only the development, but the plans for development-- in this way she gets across the feeling of constant progress through time. JimDavies
At this point she reminds us that we can't place natural things anywhere, even if we decided to. JimDavies
Actually, it makes me think of designing worlds for role-playing games. I love her suggestion "and what about stairs?" - in real life, building an artificial mountain is much harder than building a flight of stairs, but in D&D they both take the same amount of effort.wharris@mail.airmail.net (Billy Harris)
IMO, this isn't about the impossibility of changing nature but the very frightening fact that we actually can. I'm thinking of the Marina here in San Francisco, which shouldn't exist, but someone decided we needed more land for a World Expo in the 1920's, so they manufactured the Marina out of thin air (well, actually, out of landfill :) So after remodeling the face of the planet with sports centers, shopping malls, and banks, why not move on to remodeling the planet itself? (shudder) To paraphrase the Clone, "Why do we climb mountains? Because they're there. Why do we build mountains? Because they were never there.-- "D" of mukamuk@pacbell.net
I think this is a reference to Roadrunner cartoons, where Wile E. Coyote is always falling off cliffs. JimDavies
The lines, "Here's a man who lives a life of danger. Everywhere he goes he
stays - a stranger." from the song Big Science are quoted from the theme
song for "Secret Agent", the Patrick McGoohan tv series which preceded The
Prisoner.
Michael Norwitz blaklion@best.com
say "I" if you are in favor of individualism. Charlie Campos
I believe this song is about getting sick of someone. JimDavies
'Sweaters' reflects an overwhelming familiarity with externals (mouth, eyes, colour of sweater, way of holding pen and pencil) but there is no connection with the other person. 'I no longer love it' not 'I no longer love *you*. geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
When we are falling in love with somebody, little things inevitably endear us to them. The details that distinguish them from everyone else we know. An idiosyncratic expression, or a preference for certain clothes. And: when we are falling out of love with somebody, it is those same little things that just as inevitably are the first to signal a change in the weather. The song is not about someone who has become repellent, not yet. But the little things are no longer endearing, and the singer knows that the relationship's end is looming - thus the song is a dirge. I love the drums. Not confined to being a metronome with ornamentation, they are wonderfully expressive. For me they prophecy the violence and anger that the not-too-distant break-up will bring. I wish more music had drums like this. Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
I love the drums here too. There's a great wild section in "City Song" (US1-4) that starts out in time with the "dog" sample and then goes haywire. "Dr. Miller" (US) is a little different in that it's all in time with the 4/4 count, but still unpredictable. And then there's "Gravity's Angel" which I think has her most exciting percussion to date - I could listen to just the music forever...-- "D" of mukamuk@pacbell.net
As to Sweaters, the song can be about being sick of someone. Alternatively it can be sick about society and its self-imposed fashion. LA can be telling society that, for example, these sweaters you're selling me on all the malls, well, I no longer like them (if she ever did :) I no longer like the mouths of models society keeps pushing. LA could be attaching all the facets of the modern consumerist society to a person she doesn't like (or a person that represents all such society offers). Then again, I could be overthinking it ;^) (papierman@yahoo.com)
Hi I am a ten year old kid named GAVIN and I have lately been listing to Laurie.And I think that sweaters says I hate you.
'Walking and Falling': I think the link between the two parts of the song rests on the potential ambiguity of 'falling'. 'I was looking for you, but I couldn't find you' is a search for a connection with the other person, and the 'walking' also represents the looking and the falling represents the connection, i.e. falling *in love*. This summons up an image for me of wandering around, trying to sort out your feelings for someone else. 'Looking for you' = falling for you. geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
I was always intrigued by the intimacy of Walking and Falling to such an extent that I was trying to connect the two parts, which seemingly were unrelated. Then, one day, while I was skimming through my Bible, I stumbled on one of Solomon's Songs:
3:1 All night long on my bed
I longed for my beloved.
I longed for him but he never appeared.
3:2 "I will arise and look all around throughout the town,
and throughout the streets and squares;
I will search for my beloved."
I searched for him but I did not find him.
There's undeniably a connection between Laurie ANderson's poem and this
particular Solomon's Song, in my opinion. I think the second part elaborates
the awareness of her own physicality in connection with the inner turmoil
she's in from looking for her lover ('you'.) This turmoil is experienced
through the body.
Greetings,
Stefan Detrez
Every time I hear this, I can't help but think that she included this so that she could put "Language Is a Virus" on a later (commercial) record. Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
This song has two distinct parts, and I can't see any relationship between them, except that perhaps she was walking when she was looking for the person. JimDavies
Child: "I never asked to be born!"
Parent: "GO TO YOUR ROOM!"
Charlie Campos
These lyrics make no sense to me, but I think the music is haunting and beautiful. JimDavies
'Born Never Asked' Like the 'film' in Big Science, the theatre is like a procession of images of our own lives viewed from a distance by our consciousness. The theatre here is also a vessel for our consciouness like the plane. Here it appears to be a collective consciousness. We are all wondering what life holds in store for us, what the play is going to be, 'what is behind the curtain'. Curtain up at the theatre is like a birth. The play starts, and the actors appear to be autonomous but are really acting out a script, almost as it were on 'autopilot'. Compare with 'From the Air': there appears to be a pilot, but there isn't. You just have to 'jump out of the plane'. The play is like the memory in advance in Big Science. It's already been remembered/memorized but we (the audience) have yet to experience it (cf. 'this is the time. And this is the record of the time') geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
It has been pointed out to me, and I have to agree, that this is the maternity ward - the big room where they put all the newborns so that the new parents can watch them through the glass window. Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
and the answer is - Laurie Anderson, about to begin the show.
(Maternity ward? Sheesh!)
--
David Hodson -- davidh@kiss.com.au
"O Superman" on _Big Science_ was written as a response to the failed US hostage rescue attempt in Iran in the late '70s. Thus the "are you coming home?," the "when justice is gone, there's always force," and the references shifting from "Mom" and the military, as the image of America shifts from a protective "mother" to a forceful military. I think the reference point of the lyrics are the military personnel who died as well as the hostages themselves, giving the whole song a very melancholy tone. Jay D. Anderson Jay.Anderson@hx.deere.com
'O Superman' is a *classic*. I used to have the answering machine bit on my answering machine but people got confused! 'Why', they asked me, ' do you have that message saying just start talking _at the sound of the tone_? You mean _after_ the tone, surely?' Oh well, I tried.... 'Neither snow nor rain....' comes originally from Herodotus, I believe, and gives the idea of inevitability, of automatism. 'You don't know me but I know you' is like the onlooker/participant idea of 'Born Never Asked' or the imperfect connection of 'Sweaters' or the familiarity/unfamiliarity in Big Science. geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
The original text that O Superman is based on (from Massenet's Opera "La Cid", hence the (for Massenet) in the title of the song), and, I've also done a babelfish translation of it... Also, I've done "Is anybody Home?", and "Time to Go".
Original French: Ah! tout est bien fini... Mon beau reve de gloire, Mes reves de bonheur S'envolent a jamais! Tu m'as pris mon amour... Tu me prends la victoire... Seigneur, je me soumets! O souverain, O juge, O pere, Toujours voile, present toujours, Je t'adorais au temps prospere Et te benis aux sombres jours! Je vais ou la loi me reclame Libre de tous regrets humains! O souverain, O juge, O pere,
Translation (care of babelfish@altavista) Ah! all is well finished... My beautiful dream of glory, My dreams of happiness flies away forever! You took my love to me... You take the victory to me... Lord, I subject myself! O sovereign, O judge, O father, Always veiled, present always, I adored you at the times prosperous And you blessed at the dark days! I go where the law claims me Libre of all human regrets! O sovereign, o judge, o father,
She mentions something that we all know so well in a strange context, which makes it kind of funny. JimDavies
In "O Superman," the message on the machine seems to say one thing,
"This is your mother," and later, "Well you don't know me, but I know
you."
Knowing Laurie's fear of planes, this is probably describing a feeling
of impending doom. JimDavies
The reference 'smoking or non-smoking' in 'O Superman' can refer to
several things:
I thought this was weird and wonderful, and then I found out that it
was the slogan of the post office.. Well, Laurie does get some credit
for making us notice it, like an artistic photographer would.
JimDavies
Bombers.
Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
Something I read recently quoted "Neither snow nor rain ... appointed
rounds" as something to do with the US Post Office, and I had a sudden
realisation that the use in O Superman was even cleverer than I had
originally thought - I had guessed (wrongly) that it was from
Revelations. So I did an Altavista search for it, found it was
inscribed on the Manhattan Post Office, and is a quote from Herodotus
about Persian couriers. See
http://www.usps.gov/history/his8.htm
Then I added 'Laurie Anderson' to the search and landed on your site!
I have always assumed that 'O Superman' was about nuclear weapons and
the cold efficiency of their delivery, and this seems to confirm it -
the same beaurocratic efficiency of the Post Office applied to delivery
of death. The voice on the answering machine is Death - "The Hand that
Takes". "Smoking or non-smoking" is a superb juxtaposition of civil
aviation trivialities with military aviation precision.Paul Clark prc@sysmag.com
This reminds me of being a child when mom and dad were the finality of
everything. Play fair, and it that doesn't work, threaten. If you still
aren't getting anywhere, tell mom. JimDavies
"When love is gone..."
is a paraphrasing of Lao Tsu, Chapter 38. My translation has it like
this:
In O Superman, "In your long arms" may refer to the long-arm of the
law... the control the government exercises over others by (1) the
law, and (2) the force it has available to use if someone breaks the
law or (as we have seen in the past) does something ELSE it doesn't
like (hostage taking is one such example).
So she is making an ananogy between mother and your mother country.
And the meaning of "arms" changes from appendages to weapons. It's
interesting to think that we are being "held" by the weapons of our
country. JimDavies
In Example 22, 'You talk as if you knew me' gives the same sense of
familiarity/unfamiliarity.
I also sometimes hear 'the birds are flying so low' as 'the birds are
flying solo', which connects with
the next line: 'Honey, you're my one and only'.
In 'Let X=X' the image of the burning building is another vessel of
consciousness, as, I think, is the 'cast'.
The cast is a cocooning symbol, whereas the burning building is threatening.
I make a link with the
'petrochemical arms' of 'O Superman'. 'I gotta go' = I've got to be born and
get out of the burning building = womb.
geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
I can't completely explain why, but I love this weird and wonderful collage.
It is almost my favorite track on the entire album. Her hoarse voice
conjures up a victim of heartbreak, which make her demand, "pay me what you
owe me," unexpectedly crass. And the final unleashed singing/screeching,
wordless. contrasted with the operatic soprano singing backup, is so bare
and honest. Truly beautiful.
Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
I was given BIG SCIENCE as a birthday present having only seen "Language
Is A Virus" on MTV once or twice before. On the whole, my first take on
the album was "What the hell is this?" But "Example #22" with its sheer
otherwordly weirdness was the song that hooked me and kept me coming
back for more, until I gradually realized Laurie was a genius and much
more worth my consumer dollars and time than the Weird Al Yankovic and
Cyndi Lauper I was listening to at the time. Thank you, Laurie! This
song may still make no sense whatsoever, but it helped save a 14-year
old from a musical fate worse than death!!-- "D" of mukamuk@pacbell.net
What a great statement! JimDavies
Another great line! JimDavies
It's brilliant. In math one is always
substituting for x. You will always hear a math student say "let x=b
squared or pi or something. But LA takes the phrase to its only rightful
and natural conclusion. She simply lets x remain wholly itself. She does
not try to change it or replace it, but lets it exist as it was meant to.
There are more analogies you could take this to, but my fingers are
really tired and you've probably heard enough of my rattling for the
moment. Laura Plummer
A very profound statment -- a perfectly legal BASIC statment that defines X
to be whatever X is.
By the way, in C++ you can 'overload' the assignment operator; if a novice
tries this, then X = X will very likely trigger a bug.
Billy Harris
wharris@mail.airmail.net
It says somewhere in SFTNB that Originally it was "many moons are out
tonight." And someone Laurie works with suggested this instead. I
like the change. It reminds me of that giant ring of reflective
baloons that some people were thinking of putting into orbit.It would
look like a ring of bright stars, about the size of a full moon. It
never happened, obviously. Lots of people didn't like it because it
would spoil the natural look of the heavens. Makes me think: Nature
is beautiful, but so it art, and art is not natural (meaning it's
artificial). I think it's rather revolutionary that people suggested
somthing like this ring. I don't know what I think of it personally,
but it certainly is thought provoking. Imagine what groups of people
living in remote lands with no contact with scientific society would
think if there were suddenly a ring of stars.. Instantly myths and
legends would appear all over. It would make a fascinating study.
JimDavies
Is some ways, the future is a place. Or at least, some places are so
much like the past of other places that there seems to be a point in
time related to the location. JimDavies
I think this line refers to our tendency to view the future as an actual
destination. As somewhere we're actually
'heading' towards. As a goal we can eventually 'reach'. The fact that we,
by and large, are hopeful of this desti-
nation is also pointed to. Perhaps the seemingly contrary command to stay
here instead of go 70 miles east, is a request to pay more attention to the
here and now. The word linger has a connotation to travel in an easy-going,
non-ambitious manner. And a positive, carefree ring to it.
Leo_Horishny@pol.com (Leo Horishny)
Naturally the X's and O's are kisses and hugs, I'm not sure what it
means in this context, but I think it's significant that she
pronounces them "zero" rather than just "oh." JimDavies
With a passage that begins "Dear Partner, Dear Amigo" and ends "Hug & Kisses
XXX000", the image the always come to mind as I listen is this: The writer &
the reader were long time friends, who've recently had a falling out. The
writer wants to apologize, but can't quite bring himself to, so he starts a
meaningless conversation, just to get them talking, then keep straining to
extend it, as he works up his nerve. He eventually starts to become
comfortable, but still can't say the words, so he punts -- He ends it quickly,
pretending nothing ever happened, and then runs off (the rather sudden "hug &
kisses"). The problem I have with this interpretation, is that it only really
works if the two people are meeting face to face, and the song says this passage
comes from a postcard. On the other hand, clearly no one would write all those
UHs in a postcard, so it seems LA is playing with the languages again -- putting
a transcript of a spoken conversation in an inappropriate place -- on a
postcard.
James W. Curran
With the correct delivery, I sometimes get a laugh when I say this to
people. JimDavies
I remember seeing an early lithograph of LAs which included the lyrics to "It
Tango". There is was subtitled (as best I can remember) "Duet for a man and
woman who can't agree on exactly what 'it' is". Note that the subject of every
sentence in the song is "it". So, I guess the title really should be rendered
as " 'It' Tango".
James W. Curran
IT (takes two to) TANGO. Referring to He and She, their
interaction, and the words that are not said. Charlie Campos
Society has a collective idea of what it means to be a woman, which then
gets fed to the next generation so that the women will learn how to act and
the men will know what to expect from them. This song is comment on men's
expectations of women ("Isn't it just like a woman" is, in its own subtle
way, an extremely offensive remark), and how it doesn't necessarily have
anything to do with reality ("It takes one to know one" is a beautiful
reversal of what we normally think of as an insulting taunt).
Brian Raiter brianr@connectsoft.com
It seems to me that this is a deaf dialogue, in the way that they are
together physically, probably sitting somewhere, sharing a moment, there
is a certain connection between them, but not in that moment, they are
alone, they intent to fill the space, she does. he just response
abstractly about her condition, categorizing her as just as a simple
woman, nothing bad nothing good, he is really not saying anything.
But then when the dialogue starts evoluting, we fall into reality that
he is just in other frequency, repeating, reforcing, re evaluating his
own statement, that docent evolute as hers.
She keeps on going with her own conversation, abstracting as well, until
she turns to the human relations conditions, theres no lie in it anyway.
Finally she realices about the luck of connection, and she mention that
as well, once again, no new response.
the last two lines, propose a crossing to what has just happened to
them, turning everything upside down, and re enforcing those lost human
connections.
its like 'i'm lost in your words'= im lost in your eyes.
please, propose a feed back, at least of what you think about my words
from 'far lands',
Francisca Sofia,
Santiago de Chile, South America.
Francisca Lizana fran@infoera.cl
This may seem like a simplistic interpretation, but "It Tango" is one of my favorite pieces because
it makes a great statement regarding the total miscommunication
between the sexes. The one word ad d-on's suggest the stumbling blocks
and misinterpretation that often result in a relationship (albe it a
dysfunctional one). At first Laurie's comeback "It takes one to know
one" is funny, but if exa mined more closely, I think what she is
trying to say is that no man OR woman can really KNOW (bibl ically or
otherwise) what it's like to be of another sex. And the final "He said
it to no one" can also be interpreted as a double entendre on the word
"know". Just my 2 cents.
Bob
Bob_Meg@msn.com
Here's my take on the song:
I don't see it as being femenist at all! On the contrary, I think that
it's very sympathetic in its portrayal of the man. Here's how I read
it:
A man and a woman are sitting on a bench, staring at a beautiful, cloudy
sunset. The man has a slight crush on the woman, and so he uses a line
to try and communicate this to her - "isn't it just like a woman?" He
has a bit of a problem forcing this out, and stutters it a bit.The woman
doesn't realize that she is the woman he's referring to, and doesn't
know how to take it. She stutters back "it's just kind of hard to
say." The man repeats himself, trying to make his message of love more
clear. "Isn't it just like a woman." The woman again is not sure how
to respond - "it just goes that way" - a very generic remark. The man
repeats himself. She tries joking "it takes one to know one," still
waiting for the man to give her some sighn of what he means. The man
repeats himself again. The woman says something to no one, but
something that she would say to the man if she only had a sign that he
was interested - "Your eyes. It's a days work just looking in them."
Anyway, that's my take on the song. Sort of simplistic, but I think it
better suits the beautiful and inspiring music. One of my favourite
pieces ever.
Interesting to note that it can sound like "takes 1, 2." JimDavies
With this line there is the initial ambiguity--Is she saying "She said it to know?" or
"She said it to no?" JimDavies
Perhaps she got sick of talking to this guy and his monotony and
stopped talking to him. This song is making us look at what things we
consider feminine things to say. JimDavies
It is possible that she stopped talking to this guy, but it IS also
possible that she stopped considering him a person because of his
chauvinist attitude.
Another great line. I'd love to have this on a T shirt or something. JimDavies
'It's a days work just to look into them'
to look into = to investigate/to gaze into
Investigating eyes, for me, links to the externals of 'Sweaters'
geraint@hades.business.co.uk (Geraint Jennings)
"She" seems to come out on top of this argument, but I can also see it
as a stalemate. In breaking down and insulting the man after several
attempts to converse - "It takes one to know one" - she reduces herself
to his level ("Isn't it just like a woman"). Realizing this, she "says
it to know, she says it to no one: Isn't it just like a woman?" - a
bitter recrimination of what she has just done. They both lose: he has
no emotions, and her emotions get the better of her. Wouldn't it be
wonderful if the last repetition said "Isn't it just like a human?"
-- "D" of mukamuk@pacbell.net
I think that the first statement was not just an attempt to get the
person to answer the phone (like some messages I have received from
girlfriends in the past: I'm listening to the machine, wondering
whether I should pick it up and she says: "this is an emergency!!!"
The so-called "emergency" turns out to be a bruised thumbnail or
something). Both statements are correct:
Mother = Mother country = the government = a government agent.
You don't know me but I know you = I know of you, I have received
information of you from others.
In a large bureaucracy like our government, it is very common to have
information about people you don't personally know and get messages
from people you don't know.
-Dwayne Kennemore
And I've got a message to give to you.
Here come the planes.
So you better get ready. Ready to go. You can come
as you are, but pay as you go. Pay as you go.
And I said: OK. Who is this really? And the voice said:
This is the hand, the hand that takes. This is the
hand, the hand that takes.
This is the hand, the hand that takes.
Here come the planes.
They're American planes. Made in America.
Smoking or non-smoking?
1 - The planes themselves may be smoking... hostage rescue isn't easy
you know, they could be smoking if they got hit.
2 - This may be a reference to the American value of freedom of
choice.
I personally find #2 more likely to be what LA had in mind. I really
would like to ask her one of these days. Ah well, maybe I will in
four or five years.
-Dwayne Kennemore
Dwayne_Kennemore_at_ASTENGFW@ccmailsmtp.ast.com
And the voice said: Neither snow nor rain nor gloom
of night shall stay these couriers from the swift
completion of their appointed rounds.
'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice.
And when justive is gone, there's always force.
And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!
"Therefore when Tao is lost, there is goodness
When goodness is lost, there is kindness
When kindness is lost, there is justice
When justice is lost, there is ritual..."
There a lot of Taoist sentiment throughout LA's work - the one that
springs to mind most readily is the 'Monkey's Paw' - the idea that
trying to change things that aren't meant to be changed will come back
and bite you. I don't know if she's ever explicitly mentioned it...
Paul Clark prc@sysmag.com
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. So hold me,
"Electronic arms" may refer to the Internet, or some other form of
communication. Recall that the Internet was created by the government
for the military. It's hard to get away with much on a large scale
when CNN broadcasts everything you do!
"Petrochemical arms" may refer to the fuel for planes. Planes are
used for air raids and hostage rescues (I don't think the military to
send in the Love Boat to rescue the hostages!) I am unsure of this
one, though.
From: Dwayne_Kennemore_at_ASTENGFW@ccmailsmtp.ast.com
Mom, in your long arms.
In your automatic arms. Your electronic arms.
In your arms.
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
Your petrochemical arms. Your military arms.
In your electronic arms.
Example 22
Beispiele paranormaler Tonbandstimmen.
Was sind paranormale Tonbandstimmen?
Es sind Stimmen unbekannte herkunft.
Es sind paranormaler Tonbandstimmen-
(Examples of paranormal voices on tape.
What are paranormal voices on tape?
They are voices of unknown origin.
They are paranormal voices on tape-)
Ihren Klang. Ich verstehe die Sprachen.
Ich verstehe die Sprachen nicht. Ich hore nur
Irhen Klang.
(Your sound. I understand the languages.
I don't understand the languages.
I hear only your sound.)
The sun is shining slowly
The birds are flying so low.
Honey you're my one and only,
So pay my what you owe me.
Lights are going down, slowly,
In the woods the animals are moving.
In my dreams you're talking to me.
Your voice is moving through me.
You talk as if you knew me.
So pay me what you owe me.
Beispiel Nummer zweiundzwanzig.
(Example 22.)
The sun is shining slowly
The birds are flying so low.
Honey you're my one and only
So pay me what you owe me.
Let X=X
I met this guy - and he looked like might have
been a hat check clerk at an ice rink.
Which, in fact, he turned out to be. And I said:
Oh boy. Right again.
Let X=X. You know, it could be you.
It's a sky-blue sky. Satellites are out tonight.
Let X=X.
You know, I could write a book. And this book would
be think enough to stun an ox. Cause I can see the
future and it's a place - about 70 miles east of
here. Where it's lighter. Linger on over here.
Got the time? Let X=X.
I got this postcard. And it read, it said:
Dear Amigo - Dear Partner.
Listen, uh - I just want to say thanks. So...thanks.
Thanks for all the presents. Thanks for introducing
me to the Chief.
I was
a
teenager in the 80's when Big Science came out, and for me and my friends
it
was an article of faith that this referred to our pot dealer at the time,
who
was known, you won't be shocked to hear, as "the Chief".
I know this sounds far-fetched, but there's more to it than seems at
first. I
don't know if LA smokes or smoked pot, but it doesn't seem an
unreasonable
assumption, especially given her relationship with Lou Reed, who's
definitely
no stranger to reefer. Laurie lived in Manhattan, which is where the
Chief
operated. He ran a delivery service, which was a lot more convenient and
safer than other avenues of accquistion, and correspondingly more
appealing.
That's probably why he was known as sort of a dealer to the stars, or at
least the downtown equivalent of stars. One required an introduction to
him
from a current customer, and they were difficult to come by, so you'd
definitely thank somebody for doing it. Also, it fits nicely with the
sardonic tone of the song to suggest that an intro to a good dealer is
the
same as letting her sign one's cast and so on.
Tom Polley
Tompolley@aol.com
Thanks for putting on the feedbag. Thanks for going
all out.
Thanks for showing me your Swiss Army knife.
and uh -
Thanks for letting me autograph your cast.
Hug and kisses. XXXXOOOO.
Oh yeah, P.S.
I - feel - feel like - I am - in a burning building - and I
gotta go.
Cause I - I feel - feel like - I am - in a burning
building - and I gotta go.
It Tango
Ben Greenstein, bgreenstein@nctimes.net
She said: It looks. Don't you think it looks a lot like rain?
He said: Isn't it. Isn't it just. Isn't it just like a woman?
She said: It's hard. It's just hard. It's just kind of hard
to say.
He said: Isn't it. Isn't it just. Isn't it just like a woman?
She said: It goes. That's the way it goes. It goes
that way.
He said: Isn't it. Isn't it just like a woman?
She said: It takes. It takes one. It takes one to. It takes
one to know one.
He said: Isn't it just like a woman?
She said: She said it. She said it to no. She said it to
no one.
So she DID say it, but what did she say it to? She said it to no
one... some one she considers unimportant, worthless.
-Another fine interpretation by Dwayne Kennemore
Isn't it. Isn't it just? Isn't it just like a woman?
Your eyes. It's a day's work to look in to them.
Your eyes. It's a day's work just to look in to them.